WHEEL AT YOUR OWN RISK AT BARNWELL

MOABEE · 02-20-2006, 08:15 PM

just sharing an expearience that we had at the texas offroad park. look out, they will tow your rig whilest you are sleeping.

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MOABEE · 02-20-2006, 08:16 PM

the longer version

GILMER 1-21-06 RUN

Thought you might be interested in the events that have led up to my withdrawal from the park that I have used so often.

I have finally had all I can stand of the onsite management. I had a group of 15 in 5 jeeps attend the Toyota event last weekend, January 20, 21.if you don’t recall, I am the gentleman that spoke with you in regards to the various gate fees being charged at the mountain and the fact that I had to constantly listen to the manager, Lawton, tell his stories of enforcement every time I went to check in or out of the trails.

Half my group showed up Friday around 2 pm, we got a hotel but went to the mountain to regroup and do some trail clean up. I signed the log in sheet and headed out, as it turned out, there were too many rigs at old camp were we normally stay so we sent the campers in our group to the campsite just past clydes ravin. They set up their camps and we did some trails I had a husband wife joining us later to ride along and see what this thing was all about. As we sat around the latern about 9:30pm we got a call from the front of the park that the couple had showed up and needed directions. As you know, its just easier to go get them, then have them call you from the back of the mountain after one wrong turn. We headed up and to our surprise it was 2 couples. We had four jeeps go for the pick up and the wives agreed to let the 2 husbands ride back to camp in the jeeps as they followed. At this time it is about 10:30 pm and yes, we are aware of the deadline to wheel, but I told the guys we would hop off the road for one short run up the first part of twister. I pulled out of the top of twister back to the main road and headed back to camp with the other jeep. The rest of my group shows up with the night patrol fast on their heels with his red light blasting. The patrolman rushes up to camp asking who was out on the trails. At this time I was sitting in a camp chair with a beer in hand, I played dumb and asked him which jeep was he looking for. He then moved into my face, and mind you im 5’9” and weigh about 175lbs, and said he’s not here to hear my mouth, and he will kick the entire camp out for DRINKING ON THE TRAIL. I raised my voice and told him “we weren’t drinking on the trail, you see the cooler right there. At this point he calls Lawton on the radio and tells him that he has trouble at this camp with drinking and night wheeling. Yes, we were on the twister at 10:30 and shouldn’t have been, but for this guy to throw DRINKING into the mix was just to add drama to the situation. The patrolman left and came back with Lawton, Lawton said drinking will get you kicked off the mountain, and this is were I told him that his son, the patrolman, had embellished a little. We apologized for night wheeling and told him it wont happen again and Lawton said he wasn’t going to stand for any trouble on the mountain, he then said he has 4 people within 10 minutes of the mountain to come take care of any trouble that he has. We assumed this meant law enforcement.

The rest of the night went fine, Saturday we started early. We picked up 2 more jeeps and had a straggler from Cajun run with us, so a total of 7 jeeps running. It was getting dark so we wanted to try the last front trail that we could so we hit Houston creek, this trail took some time, we had 1 lean over and on the way out I pushed my front d-shaft into the side of my t-case. Baseball size hole in the case, and broken u-joint. So we pulled the the d-shaft and winched up. We had 6 more to get up since I was in the lead. We gathered up at the top across from the main road and the rv electrical camping at the winch pole. As we pulled the last rig out I got a call from family in tyler so I noticed the time 9:45 pm. I said I was broken and everyone agreed we were done, the Cajuns split off to their camp and we headed out onto the main road torwards clydes campsite, as I got to the bottom near twister I saw no jeeps behind me, I turned around to fin that my 2nd jeep had tore the valve stem on the way out of Houston and needed a spare. I pulled up with lights on his tire and got out the highlift and my spare to put on his jeep, right then the patrol truck pulls up into the middle of our work area with his red light going. At this time it is about 10 minutes after 10 AND WE ARE HIGHLIFTED UP ON THE MAIN TRAIL BETWEEN THE BERMS OF HOUSTON CREEK AND THE RV SITE? The patrolman gets out shouting that he told us Friday night to stay off the trails after 10 and this time we needed to leave. I pointed out the obvious tire issue and the fact the we were on the main trail, and the fact that it was 10:10p, and I told him that we past a landcruiser disabled on the trail that could appreciate his help more than harassing us. He informed me that it was not his job to help the landcruiser, his job was to keep people off the trails. He said I see you are drinking as well, referring to the bottle of wine that my wife and her new girlfriend had opened up to enjoy while we played in the dirt with this tire change. To set the scene I had 3 wives sitting on my rollbar with lights going facing the disabled jeep as myself and 6 others tried to change this tire. It was a sight to behold. The patrolman headed back to the office to get Lawton. We all got a cup of wine and laughed about how asinine this fellow was. In short order, Lawton and his son showed back up. Lawton came straight up to me and said he was sick of my attitude and that I needed to leave, as I tried to talk to Lawton, his son kept shouting over his shoulder, I then told him to get his fat *** back into his truck and do some good by finding that Toyota. He then informed me that he was a wrestler and knew hand to hand combat and that he just wished that I would put a finger on him. At this point I told Lawton that I wasn’t here to fight with him and that I had a hotel and we were done for the night. Lawton was still talking when I got into my jeep and took the group back to camp to get the cars to go to the hotel. Me my wife and the 2 other couples loaded up into the 2 cars and headed for the hotel. The jeeps would be loaded on the 3 jeep trailer in the morning, broken d-shaft t-case and all.

As it turns out after we had left, Lawton his son and his 3 buddies from the local sheriffs office went back out to the camp sight and made everyone, including the 4 people who had never met our group, get out of their tents so that they could search for the smart mouth punk that insulted his son. I was sound asleep in the hotel, as Lawton and his group harassed the camp for the next 2 hours. After my group told Lawton that I was in a hotel, and not camping, Lawton’s son said he would tow my jeep. My group said there was no need, we are leaving in the morning and the guy is in town asleep.

To make a long story even longer, I showed up around 8am to help load my jeep and it wasn’t there. I was informed that it was towed so I headed to the office. After counting to 10 and doing some deep breathing I went into the office and asked Lawton were my jeep was, he said he was busy and that he would get to me when he could. I told him I have wife, 2 couples, a truck and trailer waiting to head back to Dallas and he is holding us all up. I asked for the tow company and I would just chalk it up to a lesson learned after passing me over twice he mumbled that he didn’t have time to look up the number. I then asked “what is the name” , Lawton said Albright tow. I said Albright towing? He then said “Albright garage, its in Gilmer” I asked for the number, and he said “call information” so off I headed my wife and my friend and his wife in 1 car, the other couple in their car, my friend with 2 jeeps on his 3 jeep trailer, and one more truck and trailer outfit. As you know everything in Gilmer is closed on Sunday. But after stopping at the local gas station the clerk knew of Albrights which was in the opposite direction. We turned the caravan around and ended up at some shop slash mobile home slash salvage yard. I got out knocked, called the number on the sign knocked again then walked around towards the back. As I approached the back garage, something that looks like it started out as a German Shepard starting running for me, luckily he had a chain on. After checking my shorts I went back to the front to call the number on the sign. As I got to the front the owner was opening the door, I asked about about the jeep and he knew nothing, he then called his brother, the other Albright, at home in his sleep. He knew nothing about the jeep and wasn’t happy with the early phone call. At this point I have my wife call Lawton and ask where the damn jeep is, obviously I was in no mood to talk to the man. My wife tells Lawton the Albrights know nothing of the jeep Lawton tells my wife to “just sit tight and when I can get around to it I will get you the number”

We hang up and call the sheriff to report the jeep stolen. The sheriff gets our information and calls Lawton. The sheriff calls us back at 10:30 am and tells us Lawton had it towed to Johnny’s (not sure of this name) outside of town and not Albright’s. we get the caravan rounded up and head towards Mt. Pleasant to the towing company. Lawton had told this gentleman that he had me arrested for drinking and need the jeep towed, I told the guy what had happened and he said that sounds about right. “that old man has done this several times before” As we sat around the breakfast table in Pittsburg we kept laughing about how financially damaging it would have been for that park if that German Shepard mix had bitten me???

Thanks for the memories they really left an impression on the 20 people involved.

Flatbroke · 02-26-2006, 03:54 PM

guess it doesn't pay to piss off the people in charge.

1: riding after curfew

2: alcohol on the trail (wine)

I bet if you followed the rules to begin with non of this would have happened.

smartshot · 02-27-2006, 10:13 PM

Wow most of the park attendents are pretty good around here. Again i say most.....I had one guy and his wife try to screw me but it worked out ok

lndwarrior · 03-12-2006, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flatbroke

guess it doesn't pay to piss off the people in charge.

1: riding after curfew

2: alcohol on the trail (wine)

I bet if you followed the rules to begin with non of this would have happened.

Exactly. guy admits to breaking all the rules and wonders why he gets treated like a dirt bag.

guys like this are why more and more access is taken away.

lndwarrior

2006wranglermaybe · 03-24-2006, 06:46 PM

gotto admit i read the whole thing and was waiting for the part were the trail people did something wrong.. Read what you wrote and rethink why they did something wrong.

I shot someone and the cops arrested me! I am so angry at the cops they put me in cuffs. see how dumb this sounds.

admar2 · 04-10-2006, 11:49 PM

Quote:

WHEEL AT YOUR OWN RISK AT BARNWELL

someone should change the title of this thread to

Quote:

BREAK THE RULES AT YOUR OWN RISK AT BARNWELL

guess after all that, you STILL didn't learn your lesson, huh.

go figure.

????? · 04-11-2006, 03:05 AM

The guy was pushing his luck a little bit, but the guys in charge are still douchebags.

I guess that's what happens when you're dealing with a dumbass Texan who feels large and in charge.

02-20-2006, 08:15 PM	#1
MOABEE Registered Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	WHEEL AT YOUR OWN RISK AT BARNWELL just sharing an expearience that we had at the texas offroad park. look out, they will tow your rig whilest you are sleeping. http://jeepin.net/forum/showthread.p...ighlight=moabe

02-26-2006, 03:54 PM	#3
Flatbroke Registered Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollsiter, CA Posts: 497 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	guess it doesn't pay to piss off the people in charge. 1: riding after curfew 2: alcohol on the trail (wine) I bet if you followed the rules to begin with non of this would have happened. __________________ 02 Wrangler Sport,

04-11-2006, 03:05 AM	#8
????? Registered Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Huntsville/Auburn, Alabama Posts: 1,985 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The guy was pushing his luck a little bit, but the guys in charge are still douchebags. I guess that's what happens when you're dealing with a dumbass Texan who feels large and in charge. __________________ My Jeep Site

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02-20-2006, 08:16 PM	#2
MOABEE Registered Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the longer version GILMER 1-21-06 RUN Thought you might be interested in the events that have led up to my withdrawal from the park that I have used so often. I have finally had all I can stand of the onsite management. I had a group of 15 in 5 jeeps attend the Toyota event last weekend, January 20, 21.if you don’t recall, I am the gentleman that spoke with you in regards to the various gate fees being charged at the mountain and the fact that I had to constantly listen to the manager, Lawton, tell his stories of enforcement every time I went to check in or out of the trails. Half my group showed up Friday around 2 pm, we got a hotel but went to the mountain to regroup and do some trail clean up. I signed the log in sheet and headed out, as it turned out, there were too many rigs at old camp were we normally stay so we sent the campers in our group to the campsite just past clydes ravin. They set up their camps and we did some trails I had a husband wife joining us later to ride along and see what this thing was all about. As we sat around the latern about 9:30pm we got a call from the front of the park that the couple had showed up and needed directions. As you know, its just easier to go get them, then have them call you from the back of the mountain after one wrong turn. We headed up and to our surprise it was 2 couples. We had four jeeps go for the pick up and the wives agreed to let the 2 husbands ride back to camp in the jeeps as they followed. At this time it is about 10:30 pm and yes, we are aware of the deadline to wheel, but I told the guys we would hop off the road for one short run up the first part of twister. I pulled out of the top of twister back to the main road and headed back to camp with the other jeep. The rest of my group shows up with the night patrol fast on their heels with his red light blasting. The patrolman rushes up to camp asking who was out on the trails. At this time I was sitting in a camp chair with a beer in hand, I played dumb and asked him which jeep was he looking for. He then moved into my face, and mind you im 5’9” and weigh about 175lbs, and said he’s not here to hear my mouth, and he will kick the entire camp out for DRINKING ON THE TRAIL. I raised my voice and told him “we weren’t drinking on the trail, you see the cooler right there. At this point he calls Lawton on the radio and tells him that he has trouble at this camp with drinking and night wheeling. Yes, we were on the twister at 10:30 and shouldn’t have been, but for this guy to throw DRINKING into the mix was just to add drama to the situation. The patrolman left and came back with Lawton, Lawton said drinking will get you kicked off the mountain, and this is were I told him that his son, the patrolman, had embellished a little. We apologized for night wheeling and told him it wont happen again and Lawton said he wasn’t going to stand for any trouble on the mountain, he then said he has 4 people within 10 minutes of the mountain to come take care of any trouble that he has. We assumed this meant law enforcement. The rest of the night went fine, Saturday we started early. We picked up 2 more jeeps and had a straggler from Cajun run with us, so a total of 7 jeeps running. It was getting dark so we wanted to try the last front trail that we could so we hit Houston creek, this trail took some time, we had 1 lean over and on the way out I pushed my front d-shaft into the side of my t-case. Baseball size hole in the case, and broken u-joint. So we pulled the the d-shaft and winched up. We had 6 more to get up since I was in the lead. We gathered up at the top across from the main road and the rv electrical camping at the winch pole. As we pulled the last rig out I got a call from family in tyler so I noticed the time 9:45 pm. I said I was broken and everyone agreed we were done, the Cajuns split off to their camp and we headed out onto the main road torwards clydes campsite, as I got to the bottom near twister I saw no jeeps behind me, I turned around to fin that my 2nd jeep had tore the valve stem on the way out of Houston and needed a spare. I pulled up with lights on his tire and got out the highlift and my spare to put on his jeep, right then the patrol truck pulls up into the middle of our work area with his red light going. At this time it is about 10 minutes after 10 AND WE ARE HIGHLIFTED UP ON THE MAIN TRAIL BETWEEN THE BERMS OF HOUSTON CREEK AND THE RV SITE? The patrolman gets out shouting that he told us Friday night to stay off the trails after 10 and this time we needed to leave. I pointed out the obvious tire issue and the fact the we were on the main trail, and the fact that it was 10:10p, and I told him that we past a landcruiser disabled on the trail that could appreciate his help more than harassing us. He informed me that it was not his job to help the landcruiser, his job was to keep people off the trails. He said I see you are drinking as well, referring to the bottle of wine that my wife and her new girlfriend had opened up to enjoy while we played in the dirt with this tire change. To set the scene I had 3 wives sitting on my rollbar with lights going facing the disabled jeep as myself and 6 others tried to change this tire. It was a sight to behold. The patrolman headed back to the office to get Lawton. We all got a cup of wine and laughed about how asinine this fellow was. In short order, Lawton and his son showed back up. Lawton came straight up to me and said he was sick of my attitude and that I needed to leave, as I tried to talk to Lawton, his son kept shouting over his shoulder, I then told him to get his fat *** back into his truck and do some good by finding that Toyota. He then informed me that he was a wrestler and knew hand to hand combat and that he just wished that I would put a finger on him. At this point I told Lawton that I wasn’t here to fight with him and that I had a hotel and we were done for the night. Lawton was still talking when I got into my jeep and took the group back to camp to get the cars to go to the hotel. Me my wife and the 2 other couples loaded up into the 2 cars and headed for the hotel. The jeeps would be loaded on the 3 jeep trailer in the morning, broken d-shaft t-case and all. As it turns out after we had left, Lawton his son and his 3 buddies from the local sheriffs office went back out to the camp sight and made everyone, including the 4 people who had never met our group, get out of their tents so that they could search for the smart mouth punk that insulted his son. I was sound asleep in the hotel, as Lawton and his group harassed the camp for the next 2 hours. After my group told Lawton that I was in a hotel, and not camping, Lawton’s son said he would tow my jeep. My group said there was no need, we are leaving in the morning and the guy is in town asleep. To make a long story even longer, I showed up around 8am to help load my jeep and it wasn’t there. I was informed that it was towed so I headed to the office. After counting to 10 and doing some deep breathing I went into the office and asked Lawton were my jeep was, he said he was busy and that he would get to me when he could. I told him I have wife, 2 couples, a truck and trailer waiting to head back to Dallas and he is holding us all up. I asked for the tow company and I would just chalk it up to a lesson learned after passing me over twice he mumbled that he didn’t have time to look up the number. I then asked “what is the name” , Lawton said Albright tow. I said Albright towing? He then said “Albright garage, its in Gilmer” I asked for the number, and he said “call information” so off I headed my wife and my friend and his wife in 1 car, the other couple in their car, my friend with 2 jeeps on his 3 jeep trailer, and one more truck and trailer outfit. As you know everything in Gilmer is closed on Sunday. But after stopping at the local gas station the clerk knew of Albrights which was in the opposite direction. We turned the caravan around and ended up at some shop slash mobile home slash salvage yard. I got out knocked, called the number on the sign knocked again then walked around towards the back. As I approached the back garage, something that looks like it started out as a German Shepard starting running for me, luckily he had a chain on. After checking my shorts I went back to the front to call the number on the sign. As I got to the front the owner was opening the door, I asked about about the jeep and he knew nothing, he then called his brother, the other Albright, at home in his sleep. He knew nothing about the jeep and wasn’t happy with the early phone call. At this point I have my wife call Lawton and ask where the damn jeep is, obviously I was in no mood to talk to the man. My wife tells Lawton the Albrights know nothing of the jeep Lawton tells my wife to “just sit tight and when I can get around to it I will get you the number” We hang up and call the sheriff to report the jeep stolen. The sheriff gets our information and calls Lawton. The sheriff calls us back at 10:30 am and tells us Lawton had it towed to Johnny’s (not sure of this name) outside of town and not Albright’s. we get the caravan rounded up and head towards Mt. Pleasant to the towing company. Lawton had told this gentleman that he had me arrested for drinking and need the jeep towed, I told the guy what had happened and he said that sounds about right. “that old man has done this several times before” As we sat around the breakfast table in Pittsburg we kept laughing about how financially damaging it would have been for that park if that German Shepard mix had bitten me??? Thanks for the memories they really left an impression on the 20 people involved.

02-27-2006, 10:13 PM	#4
smartshot Registered Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 75 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow most of the park attendents are pretty good around here. Again i say most.....I had one guy and his wife try to screw me but it worked out ok

03-24-2006, 06:46 PM	#6
2006wranglermaybe Registered Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	gotto admit i read the whole thing and was waiting for the part were the trail people did something wrong.. Read what you wrote and rethink why they did something wrong. I shot someone and the cops arrested me! I am so angry at the cops they put me in cuffs. see how dumb this sounds.