STUCK: But got pulled out - now what?

K.Biggs · 09-20-2003, 02:44 PM

I was out in the woods and ended up on frame with my wheels spinnin around with no hope in some huge ruts. No chance to extract myself.

So I did manage to get some good ol boys out there with their big 37" Toyotas, and since I haven't installed the rear tow points yet, I wrapped the rope around the rear axle. It was a brief tug to pull me out - but here's my question:

If that happens again - is there a better place to pull from? Should I be worried that I might have torqued something bad by pulling with the alxe? I've taken it on the highway - and no vibes at all, so it seems okay.... but who knows...

thoughts?

Beavis · 09-20-2003, 02:49 PM

your sig says f/r tow hooks, so I'll assume you don't have the trailer hitch either. Not much else to tie onto on the back, but stacking rocks or something else under the tires might've helped getting out of the ruts w/o the tow. WJ has no frame btw. If it feels ok probably fine, but an alignment might not be a bad idea either

Halfdoc · 09-20-2003, 04:06 PM

D/C makes a rear tow point for the WJ. I would consider investing in one. Unibody=*frame* welded to body.

Good luck.

David

eric james · 09-20-2003, 04:58 PM

Get a hitch

LouisianaZJ · 09-20-2003, 05:50 PM

best rear tow point evar- tow hitch with no hitch ball thing in there. Slide your tow rope inside, now put your hitch pin in, sliding it through the loop on the rope, install the cotter pin. Pull that biatch out.

I would say the most likely damage would be a tweaked LCA mount on the frame or axle or a damaged LCA bushing.

Stormchaser · 09-20-2003, 07:52 PM

Quote:

-=- originally posted by LouisianaZJ -=-
best rear tow point evar- tow hitch with no hitch ball thing in there. Slide your tow rope inside, now put your hitch pin in, sliding it through the loop on the rope, install the cotter pin. Pull that biatch out.

That's a reallllllly good idea. Thanks for sharing!

MilanJeep · 09-20-2003, 08:06 PM

Quote:

-=- originally posted by LouisianaZJ -=-
best rear tow point evar- tow hitch with no hitch ball thing in there. Slide your tow rope inside, now put your hitch pin in, sliding it through the loop on the rope, install the cotter pin. Pull that biatch out.

I would say the most likely damage would be a tweaked LCA mount on the frame or axle or a damaged LCA bushing.

Yep I do this all the time too. Nothing works better.

K.Biggs · 09-20-2003, 08:32 PM

Sounds like I shouldn't worry too much - that's good.

I do have the mopar rear tow hook - I just have not had the chance to install it. However now that I have spent $35 on two 30 packs of Bud in exchange for the extraction at 9am - I'm behind the curve. Sounds like wrench time tomorrow....

Josh · 09-21-2003, 01:09 AM

best rear tow point evar- tow hitch with no hitch ball thing in there. Slide your tow rope inside, now put your hitch pin in, sliding it through the loop on the rope, install the cotter pin. Pull that biatch out.

I've been doing this for years, but now I got a buddy who thinks it is not a good idea. FWIW, I've never had a problem doing this, nor have I ever even *heard* of a problem doing it. Oh well.

His point is that you are not distributing the force evenly over the pin, especially on angle pulls. (Point). Mine is that in some cases you're putting even more pressure on the pin with a specialized hitch, especially if it's not perfectly machined. (Counterpoint). For $$$ reasons, I'm not buying a specialized receiver bracket, because there's more fun ways to spend $40.

I don't know, but either way, the original poster of this idea won't take me seriously because my sig is too long.

Acrophiliac · 09-21-2003, 01:22 AM

Just continue to use the axle... it's fine. Especially if you attach the strap near where the control arms are.

And if anyone complains, just think about what happens if YOU are pulling someone else out. Where what is pushing your Jeep forward? Yes, ladies, it is the wheels, pushing the axle, which in turn pushes the control arms which are attached to the uniframe.... Hmmmm. So it is fine. I used to do it all the time when my WJ was bone stock and not even a tow hook.

MilanJeep · 09-21-2003, 05:24 AM

Quote:

-=- originally posted by Acrophiliac -=-
Just continue to use the axle... it's fine. Especially if you attach the strap near where the control arms are.

And if anyone complains, just think about what happens if YOU are pulling someone else out. Where what is pushing your Jeep forward? Yes, ladies, it is the wheels, pushing the axle, which in turn pushes the control arms which are attached to the uniframe.... Hmmmm. So it is fine. I used to do it all the time when my WJ was bone stock and not even a tow hook.

WTF? It's tottally different than when you are pulling someone out. Putting all the stress on one point is way different than distributing it through the rest of the suspension. :naw:

If that was true no one would ever use tow hooks.

LouisianaZJ · 09-21-2003, 05:48 AM

Quote:

-=- originally posted by MilanJeep -=-
WTF? It's tottally different than when you are pulling someone out. Putting all the stress on one point is way different than distributing it through the rest of the suspension. :naw:

If that was true no one would ever use tow hooks.

word
....not to mention when your stuck it is usually in mud or water or something sloppy, so you will have to crawl into the muck to get that tow strap on the fawkin axle.

OverkillZJ · 09-21-2003, 01:33 PM

Quote:

-=- originally posted by Acrophiliac -=-
Just continue to use the axle... it's fine. Especially if you attach the strap near where the control arms are.

And if anyone complains, just think about what happens if YOU are pulling someone else out. Where what is pushing your Jeep forward? Yes, ladies, it is the wheels, pushing the axle, which in turn pushes the control arms which are attached to the uniframe.... Hmmmm. So it is fine. I used to do it all the time when my WJ was bone stock and not even a tow hook.

ABSOLUTELY WRONG!

Save your axles, get a hitch. Tow points are a MUST.

jp8819 · 09-21-2003, 04:59 PM

I wouldnt pull on the axle unless I had no other option. I heard of a guy ripping the front axle out of a toyota when he was stuck real bad in the mud and his friend gave him a jerk a little to hard.

BigRedYJ · 09-21-2003, 05:13 PM

Just a little RANT...

BUT...I was noticing that my wifes Nissan has front and rear tow points on her Altima and I had to pay almost $175. to put front and rear tow hooks on my Jeep. :idmo: DC

limited90xj · 09-21-2003, 06:01 PM

ur not made to get stuck she is, if u got stuck correct driving problems.

09-20-2003, 02:44 PM	#1
K.Biggs Registered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lee, NH Posts: 404 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	STUCK: But got pulled out - now what? I was out in the woods and ended up on frame with my wheels spinnin around with no hope in some huge ruts. No chance to extract myself. So I did manage to get some good ol boys out there with their big 37" Toyotas, and since I haven't installed the rear tow points yet, I wrapped the rope around the rear axle. It was a brief tug to pull me out - but here's my question: If that happens again - is there a better place to pull from? Should I be worried that I might have torqued something bad by pulling with the alxe? I've taken it on the highway - and no vibes at all, so it seems okay.... but who knows... thoughts? __________________ ------------+ Jeeps rock - drive em +------------

09-20-2003, 02:49 PM	#2
Beavis Registered Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 978 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	your sig says f/r tow hooks, so I'll assume you don't have the trailer hitch either. Not much else to tie onto on the back, but stacking rocks or something else under the tires might've helped getting out of the ruts w/o the tow. WJ has no frame btw. If it feels ok probably fine, but an alignment might not be a bad idea either __________________ 2001 WJ V8 4x4 QT-II U/C springs+.75" spacers, 245/75-16's on JK wheels+1.25" spacers, MX6's+Addco swaybars, Stillen rotors...

09-20-2003, 04:06 PM	#3
Halfdoc Registered Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 631 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	D/C makes a rear tow point for the WJ. I would consider investing in one. Unibody=frame welded to body. Good luck. David __________________ Dave '01 WJ V8 LTD UC QD. Claytons LA Tera 4" springs + BB. Trailready front bumper. ORGS TB. Bilstien 5150. JKS QD . Kevins sliders for WJ. Kevins Roof Rack. MB Motoring Rockers w/GY MTR 285/75/16. Warn 9000i. ASE upgraded PCM. PREMIUM GAS

09-20-2003, 08:32 PM	#8
K.Biggs Registered Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lee, NH Posts: 404 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds like I shouldn't worry too much - that's good. I do have the mopar rear tow hook - I just have not had the chance to install it. However now that I have spent $35 on two 30 packs of Bud in exchange for the extraction at 9am - I'm behind the curve. Sounds like wrench time tomorrow.... __________________ ------------+ Jeeps rock - drive em +------------

09-21-2003, 01:09 AM	#9
Josh Registered Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Middle of the NL central pack again....but barely Posts: 12,825 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	best rear tow point evar- tow hitch with no hitch ball thing in there. Slide your tow rope inside, now put your hitch pin in, sliding it through the loop on the rope, install the cotter pin. Pull that biatch out. I've been doing this for years, but now I got a buddy who thinks it is not a good idea. FWIW, I've never had a problem doing this, nor have I ever even heard of a problem doing it. Oh well. His point is that you are not distributing the force evenly over the pin, especially on angle pulls. (Point). Mine is that in some cases you're putting even more pressure on the pin with a specialized hitch, especially if it's not perfectly machined. (Counterpoint). For $$$ reasons, I'm not buying a specialized receiver bracket, because there's more fun ways to spend $40. I don't know, but either way, the original poster of this idea won't take me seriously because my sig is too long. __________________ www.cubssuckclub.com &

09-20-2003, 04:58 PM	#4
eric james Registered Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 3,820 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Get a hitch

09-20-2003, 05:50 PM	#5
LouisianaZJ jeep on 6 ton jackstands Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,644 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	best rear tow point evar- tow hitch with no hitch ball thing in there. Slide your tow rope inside, now put your hitch pin in, sliding it through the loop on the rope, install the cotter pin. Pull that biatch out. I would say the most likely damage would be a tweaked LCA mount on the frame or axle or a damaged LCA bushing.

09-21-2003, 01:22 AM	#10
Acrophiliac Registered Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just continue to use the axle... it's fine. Especially if you attach the strap near where the control arms are. And if anyone complains, just think about what happens if YOU are pulling someone else out. Where what is pushing your Jeep forward? Yes, ladies, it is the wheels, pushing the axle, which in turn pushes the control arms which are attached to the uniframe.... Hmmmm. So it is fine. I used to do it all the time when my WJ was bone stock and not even a tow hook.

09-21-2003, 04:59 PM	#14
jp8819 Registered Join Date: May 2000 Location: NC,Greensboro Posts: 173 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I wouldnt pull on the axle unless I had no other option. I heard of a guy ripping the front axle out of a toyota when he was stuck real bad in the mud and his friend gave him a jerk a little to hard. __________________ 1995,ZJ,5.2,K&N intake,Flowmaster ,tinted windows,Addco front & rear swaybars,jks discos.BB with Upcountry and 32x 11.50 buckshot mudders and XL Dt3000's Brother-97 TSi ZJ with BB and 265x75x16 cooper MT's

09-21-2003, 05:13 PM	#15
BigRedYJ Registered Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 865 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just a little RANT... BUT...I was noticing that my wifes Nissan has front and rear tow points on her Altima and I had to pay almost $175. to put front and rear tow hooks on my Jeep. :idmo: DC __________________ :happpyd: '89 YJ: Ford 5.0L, C6, NP205- twin sticked, Ford 9" rear, Dana 44, SOA, 35's. :norcaljr:

09-21-2003, 06:01 PM	#16
limited90xj Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: knox, TN Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ur not made to get stuck she is, if u got stuck correct driving problems. __________________ 89 xj, recently comatose 90xj, 7.5" Coil spring conversion, 36's 98 5.9, kn, dual exhaust, 18-9 saleen wheels gunmetal, mopar ecu http://community.webshots.com/user/gryphon1118

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