Replacement steering box for TJ, which one?

Paydirt · 03-02-2003, 05:15 PM

I heard that you could replace the stock steering box in a '97 TJ with a beefier one from a grand wagoneer. Supposedly it matched right up. Any one done it before?
If so, what year did you get it out of and what kind of problems did you run into?

Paydirt · 03-03-2003, 05:04 PM

anybody know?!

The Mucker · 03-03-2003, 05:12 PM

I have heard that the steering box out of a J20 is a good setup, but I don't have any first-hand experience.

What have other TJ owners done to upgrade their steering on the cheep?

BTT for ya!

CrazyFearless1 · 03-03-2003, 06:35 PM

I have replaced my TJ steering box with one out of a Wagoneer.
Working good so far. And it's a direct bolt in.
NAPA part # is:27-7570

Be warned it is about the same cost as an AGR box.
And it does cost more than the TJ box.
There must be some good reason why.

Red01TJ · 03-03-2003, 07:57 PM

an 80+ steering box out of a Grand Wagoneer will work in a TJ and is a direct bolt up. It will have 4 mounting points vs. 3 on the TJ. if I remember the ratio is a little better also. you can buy it new and get a warranty and pay about 160 or so plus core or 50 to 75 from a junk yard.

SolidAxleDurango · 03-03-2003, 09:22 PM

IIRC.....

J20 boxes > J10/Wagoneer/YJ boxes > TJ boxes

I've got a J20 box in the Durango. Had one mount (it's a 4 bolt box) ground off and use the remaining 3 (same 3 bolt pattern as a TJ).

J20 box has been in there for 2+ years... nearly 40K miles... on a 5640 lb rig, riding on 35s with a locked front, that get's wheeled hard on high traction rocks regularly... Not so much as an adjustment yet. Drives like brand new rack and pinion on the freeway to this day.

How's that ??

YEOW! · 03-04-2003, 12:21 AM

Yeah, i got 2

from a friend and junkyard.
I will just flush the fluid out of Waggy and install it then fill fluid up thats it.
I havent install it due to cold outside.
Its suppose be a bit stronger, better ratio.
I was told that Wagoneer and AGR are ALMOST ID to each other but need more reseach on that anyway!

If you want from Wagoneer then to looking for 80+.

HTH!
YEOW!

1WVBubba · 03-04-2003, 12:47 AM

Will this swap work on a ZJ box too? The steering on my lifted 93 Grand is TERRIBLE and I'm looking for a solution....

JeremyH · 03-04-2003, 01:25 AM

AGR Steering.

The Mucker · 05-26-2003, 02:54 PM

I' ve heard from mrblaine that the AGR stuff is junk...

Wooders · 05-26-2003, 10:52 PM

I fitted a Suburban box to my TJ - works fine....and bolted straigh on....

mrblaine · 05-27-2003, 03:18 AM

Quote:

-=- originally posted by The Mucker -=-
I' ve heard from mrblaine that the AGR stuff is junk...

I don't know that it's all junk, just the 4 set-ups I have been involved with.

I am glad to finally have returned that crap back to it's rightful owner (AGR) and get it out of my garage.

I had read at one time that AGR went away from the bronze lower bushing to support the sector shaft and replaced it with a caged needle bearing. I still have not been able to verify this. The bronze bushing on my last one is what pushed me over the edge when it cratered after a couple of trips to JV.

03-02-2003, 05:15 PM	#1
Paydirt Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Replacement steering box for TJ, which one? I heard that you could replace the stock steering box in a '97 TJ with a beefier one from a grand wagoneer. Supposedly it matched right up. Any one done it before? If so, what year did you get it out of and what kind of problems did you run into? __________________ She ain't your girlfriend, it's just your turn.

03-03-2003, 05:04 PM	#2
Paydirt Registered Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	anybody know?! __________________ She ain't your girlfriend, it's just your turn.

03-03-2003, 06:35 PM	#4
CrazyFearless1 Registered Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Newington,CT Posts: 270 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have replaced my TJ steering box with one out of a Wagoneer. Working good so far. And it's a direct bolt in. NAPA part # is:27-7570 Be warned it is about the same cost as an AGR box. And it does cost more than the TJ box. There must be some good reason why. __________________ 97 TJ - 4" Skyjacker Lift - 33's on Factory Gambler Wheels - Detroit True-Trac in D30 - Detroit Locker in Super35 - Spidertax Wheel Spacers - And a Bunch Of Other "Stuff"

03-03-2003, 09:22 PM	#6
SolidAxleDurango I love chite5c Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: OKC Posts: 1,147 Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	IIRC..... J20 boxes > J10/Wagoneer/YJ boxes > TJ boxes I've got a J20 box in the Durango. Had one mount (it's a 4 bolt box) ground off and use the remaining 3 (same 3 bolt pattern as a TJ). J20 box has been in there for 2+ years... nearly 40K miles... on a 5640 lb rig, riding on 35s with a locked front, that get's wheeled hard on high traction rocks regularly... Not so much as an adjustment yet. Drives like brand new rack and pinion on the freeway to this day. How's that ?? __________________ 05 Kawasaki ATVs -> our toys 07 Ram -> my tow rig 08 Weekend Warrior -> rolling garage with a pooper

03-04-2003, 12:47 AM	#8
1WVBubba Registered Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Buckhannon, WV Posts: 125 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Grand Cherokee? Will this swap work on a ZJ box too? The steering on my lifted 93 Grand is TERRIBLE and I'm looking for a solution.... __________________ 97 Wrangler Sport 4" Tera+1" Body, Locked F&R, Winch, TERA 4:1, Currie SYE & Tom Woods Shafts, KILBY Skid, M.O.R.E. Cage, Herc'd Tub - 35" MT/Rs 93 ZJ Ltd. - SOLD 3" Rancho Coils + 1.75" BBoost,JKS Discos, RS 9000 Shocks,Adj. Trac Bar 32x11.50x15 BFG AT K/Os on Canyons, 45x60 Roof Rack, Rock Rails, TBI spacer, Remote Start Mid-Atlantic Jeepers

03-03-2003, 05:12 PM	#3
The Mucker Registered Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have heard that the steering box out of a J20 is a good setup, but I don't have any first-hand experience. What have other TJ owners done to upgrade their steering on the cheep? BTT for ya!

03-03-2003, 07:57 PM	#5
Red01TJ Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	an 80+ steering box out of a Grand Wagoneer will work in a TJ and is a direct bolt up. It will have 4 mounting points vs. 3 on the TJ. if I remember the ratio is a little better also. you can buy it new and get a warranty and pay about 160 or so plus core or 50 to 75 from a junk yard.

03-04-2003, 12:21 AM	#7
YEOW! Registered Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Long Island, New York '00 TJ Posts: 2,043 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah, i got 2 from a friend and junkyard. I will just flush the fluid out of Waggy and install it then fill fluid up thats it. I havent install it due to cold outside. Its suppose be a bit stronger, better ratio. I was told that Wagoneer and AGR are ALMOST ID to each other but need more reseach on that anyway! If you want from Wagoneer then to looking for 80+. HTH! YEOW!

03-04-2003, 01:25 AM	#9
JeremyH Registered Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,633 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	AGR Steering. __________________ '97 TJ '75/'80 CJ-5 (under construction)

05-26-2003, 02:54 PM	#10
The Mucker Registered Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I' ve heard from mrblaine that the AGR stuff is junk... __________________ David Iles Moderately equipped 98 TJ 37 IROCs on D60s/5.38:1/Spool up front/detroit rear/Atlas 4.3/Currie AR/Warn 9K/ReadyWelder

05-26-2003, 10:52 PM	#11
Wooders Registered Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Upsidedownland---- Posts: 3,770 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I fitted a Suburban box to my TJ - works fine....and bolted straigh on.... __________________ Cheers Wooders 1946 Willys truck, 1951 Willys Wagon, 1974 CJ6, 1975 CJ5, 1981 J20, 1984 CJ8, 1995 XJ, 1997 TJ, 1998 XJ & 1998 TJ ...... Wooders Garage. Sydney Jeep Club.

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