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    Default Air bag recall M35/NHTSA 12V-527

    Wondering how many of you have had the recall performed

    I find it hard to believe that an external filter consisting of a diode/inductor/capacitor could possibly repair an internal defective capacitor in the air bag module
    The proper fix if indeed needed is to replace the cap not add an external patch

    Suggest everyone reads this BEFORE they get the recall completed

    http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb/recall_m35.pdf

    My Module - 2002 Overland air bag module
    Part # 56010488AF
    Software version # 03.51

    What's your part# and Software version?
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    I just got this recall notification in the mail.. I can't seem to access the document you posted. Could you repost?

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    I'll get the specifics in the morning since the mail is in my truck. But mine is for a module of some sort...I think ofc airbag module or something. Basically its a wiring harness of sorts beneath the front seat or somewhere near there. Like o said...I'll grab specifics in the morning....lol

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    Is this the correct forum for your post, that recall seems concern Jeep Libertys...

    http://www.jeep.com/universal/websel...ce/pdf/M35.pdf

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    Default M35 jeep recall - a must read document

    Not sure why the link in the first post no longer functions - Guess S%^$ Happens
    This link is the recall instruction document not what the other guys posted but the specific details of what is to be done on your Jeep

    The doc is a 21 page document - Yes the recall includes both Liberty and WJ's

    Suggest everyone reads this BEFORE they get the recall completed

    My Module - 2002 Overland air bag module
    Part # 56010488AF
    Software version # 03.51

    What's your part# and Software version?

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxN...it?usp=sharing
    http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb/recall_m35.pdf
    Last edited by KJINTF; 02-21-2014 at 02:39 PM. Reason: Tried to repir the link once again
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    The whole recall is too large form me to post (with pictures).

    I can't get in to the link above.

    Here's some info:

    Safety Recall M35 / NHTSA 12V-527
    January 2014
    Occupant Restraint Control Module Filter Circuit
    2002 - 2003 (KJ) Jeep Liberty
    NOTE: This recall applies only to the above vehicles built through March 28, 2003 (MDH 032823).
    2002 - 2004 (WJ / WG) Jeep Grand Cherokee
    NOTE: This recall applies only to the above vehicles built through May 23, 2003 (MDH 052322).

    The airbag system Occupant Restraint Control (ORC) module on about 774,000 of the above vehicles may experience a front airbag and/or seatbelt pretensioner inadvertent deployment. An inadvertent deployment while driving could distract the driver and cause a crash without warning.


    All involved vehicles must have a jumper harness with an in-line diode filter circuit installed.
    NOTE: If the airbag warning light is illuminated and there was no inadvertent airbag deployment, any faulty airbag components, and the cost to make repairs, are the responsibility of the owner.

    Parts information
    Part Number Description
    CBXTM351AC Harness, Jumper (KJ models)
    CBXTM354AB Harness, Jumper (WJ models)
    (with side curtain airbags)
    CBXTM353AB Harness, Jumper (WJ Models)
    (without side curtain airbags)
    ___________________________________
    Part Number Description
    CBXTM352AA Switch, Transfer Case
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    I find it hard to believe that an external filter consisting of a diode/inductor/capacitor could possibly repair an internal KNOWN DEFECTIVE capacitor in the air bag module
    The proper fix if indeed needed is to replace the capacitor not add an external patch

    Why has Chrysler decided to add an external "patch" aka filter that can not possibly repair an internal capacitor problem?
    A simple module exchange would be the proper fix - no need for extra cables laying around the place
    Chrysler knows full well about the Capacitor ESR issue - the ONLY proper fix is to replace the defective part not add an external band-aid



    The 21 page document describes in detail how to install their patch
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxN...it?usp=sharing
    http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb/recall_m35.pdf
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    I still can't get into google drive - I'm blocked here at work. I do, however have a copy of the recall here.

    This is a public document http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...2V527-8011.pdf from the NHTSA website.
    That is the fix that is being done.

    If you can't believe the fix will work, I don't know what to tell you. If the fix doesn't work for someone, it can be reported to NHTSA.
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    Gentlemen,

    I too have recievd the notice from Chrysler to have the patch-work performed on my Wife's 2002 WJ. However, I am not sure that this will actually apply to the vehicle any longer. Based on the Service Bulletin listed below, I changed out the original module for a 2004 model (56010485AH with software version 4.4).

    This module eliminated the two front "Impact Sensors" from the system. Production date began in July 2003. I will speack with the dealer about this again...

    http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wj_0801603.pdf

    Regards,

    Carlos

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    Here is another link to the 21 page document
    http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb/recall_m35.pdf

    The 4 page document at (google "M35 / NHTSA 12v-527") good read as to exactly is wrong with the module and the Patch Chrysler choose to use
    The internal Cap with excessive ESR is the issue
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    I took mine is last week. The doofus tech put the center console back in over my seat belt. I really dislike dealers..

    Seems pretty straight foward though.. I was under the impression that it was just a chip. Its a whole harness with the actual module. Still plug and play nonetheless.
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    Doofus tech - I continue call the stealership guys mechanics on good days and bad days something else
    They are mostly just parts replacement guys

    I strongly suggest everyone read the linked 21 page document addressed above

    For the last 45 years I have been a elecronic engineer and technician - I know what ESR means and why the patch aka filter is almost useless
    The Patch Chrysler is doing is NOT the correct solution by any means
    Lets wait and see how many of the "Fixed" jeeep continue to have the air bags deploy when not needed or desired

    Replacement or a simple module exchange is the proper fix
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    Just got the recall done this mourning. Was in and out in about a hour. My local dealer appeared to do a good job, everything was put back right. i don't have any complaints about getting the recall done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Brown View Post
    Gentlemen,

    I too have recievd the notice from Chrysler to have the patch-work performed on my Wife's 2002 WJ. However, I am not sure that this will actually apply to the vehicle any longer. Based on the Service Bulletin listed below, I changed out the original module for a 2004 model (56010485AH with software version 4.4).

    This module eliminated the two front "Impact Sensors" from the system. Production date began in July 2003. I will speack with the dealer about this again...

    http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb/tsb_wj_0801603.pdf

    Regards,

    Carlos
    I've done the same conversion about six months ago. Tell me what you find out!

    Also my mail notification mentioned if the work was performed before the recall we can send it the receipt for reimbursement.

    I read the above PDF and notice they replace the Four Wheel Drive Indicator Light Switch also. Wonder why?

    Thanks!
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    No matter if the recall fixes or does not fix the situation, if you have it done you can not be blamed if there is a problem later with the air bag.

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    I was told when I got my build sheet that I need the air bag recall done. My air bag light isn't on maybe the po swapped out the module for an 04 one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnyre View Post
    I was told when I got my build sheet that I need the air bag recall done. My air bag light isn't on maybe the po swapped out the module for an 04 one?
    See post 6 above - the air bag light doesn't have to be on for the dealer to the M35 recall. Is that the one they said needed to be done?
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    If the airbag light is on then they don't fix that for free! It's the owner's responsibly to fix the Air Bag Module if non-functioning.
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    Also in Italy we are receiving notices for the M35 recall, I have received it two days ago.

    BUT.... I have a doubt...

    A lot of my friends who own a WK/WH are experiencing the "disaster" due to the N23 recall (there is a thousand and thousand posts thread on Jeepforum.com and hundred threads around the world): Chry (FCA) did a new firmare for the TCase unit, but this new firmware causes the neutral and 4Lo not engaging and FCA still don't have a solution; so I am really worried about performing the M35 recall...

    I found nothing on the web about problems deriving from M35 recall, but I am still worried...

    what do you suggest: to do or not to do the M35?... this is the problem...

    Anyone had problems due to the recall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny V
    I read the above PDF and notice they replace the Four Wheel Drive Indicator Light Switch also. Wonder why?
    I also wonder why...
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    Me I will be waiting for several months
    IMO There is NO WAY for the patch aka band aid to properly fix the underlying issue
    Which is an internal part of the Air Bag Module - A defective capacitor

    Suggest you download the 21 page document and read through it
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