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    Default scout II dana 44 swap to cj 7

    hi thanks for looking I'm thinking about putting a set of scout axles under my cj 7 has anyone got any advice or tried this?what do I need to do? thanks :bangnerd:

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    There may be an issue with the casters with this particular front axle, if I'm not mistaken. There are guys on this board that have much more knowledge about the different axles that have been tried under the CJ....I'm sure they will gladly offer some advice.


    Good Luck.

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    search been done alot
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    -=- originally posted by CJ4PLAY -=-
    There may be an issue with the casters with this particular front axle, if I'm not mistaken.

    CJ4PLAY
    same here, the castor on the scout axle is at 0 degrees and you need between 4 and 6 i think. you will have to grind off the welds and rotate the knuckle or take it somewhere and have it done. on my cj5 i had to outboard the spring hangers for the extra width, im not sure about on the 7.

    rob

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    If you don't want the hassle of rotating the knuckles, you could use degree shims to pick up caster...but the pinion would be way down, almost a plow.
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    You have to outboard the springs in the front and rotate the knuckles. If you try it anyother way, you will not be happy with the results. The rear is easy!

    TJ

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    Default I just did this swap..

    ..last December, but I picked up some 1980 ScoutII Dana 44's for my swap. The '80 Scout's front D44 comes with 2* Caster built in. You can get away with that on a spring under (I don't know about a SOA though), but if you want you can also buy Caster Correctors from "The Scout Ranch" ($42.00) that bolt-on and will give you another 1.5* Caster. '80 ScoutII WMS' are only around 58" so you can run them full width, and the wheel bolt pattern is the same as the D30 BUT, you will have to outboard the front spring mounts and also move the rear perches in some. Poison Spyder Customs (www.spydercustoms.com) makes a kit for the front that outboards the springs and gives you a Shackle-Reverse setup at the same time with minimal welding required. That's the route I took with my '81 Scrambler. The Scout 6 bolt External Hubs are marginally stronger than the 5 bolt units on the D30, but not as strong as Ford (or FSJ) Internal Hubs though.

    I've put around 5k miles and 3 trips to Tahoe (snow covered mountain roads) with this setup, including sustained 75mph highway speeds and it behaves no worse than it did before the swap except that it is much more stable on & off road with the wider axles.

    Here's a front shot of the Jeep before & after the swap



    BTW, those wider flares (Xenons) were added a week later to keep the mud/snow rooster-tails (off the front tire) out of my face. Trust me, all it takes is 1 rock to ruin your smile.

    Good luck
    Nick


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    we did it on a buddies jeep... the front axle is kinda a pita... you have to outboard the springs, worry about the caster and you have to do something with the steering (stock scout steering setup wont work).

    IMO, a waggy front axle is a better candidate.. you still have to outboard, but there isnt the caster issue.... although you'll have to get other parts to make it the correct bolt pattern.

    -Mel
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