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    Default Lift Advice: Rubicon Express vs Rough Country

    I currenty have a 2" RE budget boost on my TJ. I have decided it's time to raise up higher and put on bigger tires (33" most likely). I have a budget of about $500 for the lift. I have found these 2 options and was looking for advice (any other $500 options that I don't know about would be appreciated as well):

    Rubicon Express RE7002 3.5" Standard Kit $489. This kit does not include shocks, can I keep the DT3000 shocks from the BB?http://www.rubiconexpress.com/dynami...p?folderid=184

    Rough Country 4" TJ Wrangler Lift Kit W/Shocks $499. This kit includes shocks although I don't know how good they are.
    http://rough.roughcountry.com/jeep.htm

    Recommendations would be appreciated.
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    With the RE you will eventually need new shocks. RE is a little better quality.


    For the money the RC kit is pretty good. I started with that and have slowly been changing it out for a little higher quality stuff.
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    I have a YJ and I love my Rough Country lift. That being said, if I would not have been on a strict budget when I got my lift, I would have gone with either Big Dicks Suspension or Rubicon Express.

    The Rough Country lift is very functional. I got the lift I needed and the springs have not sagged and the price was very reasonable, so I am happy. The kit is complete with shocks. But the springs are stiff and the shocks suck. Neither of these really bothered me much because when I lifted my jeep, I took off 9 year old stock springs and shocks, so my ride wasn't that great to begin with.

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    If I go with the RE kit, do I need to replace the DT3000 shocks? Obviously they would be stretched an extra 1.5" than they are now with the 2" budget boost. Also with 33" tires do I need to re-gear. If so how much does this cost and where would I purchase the necessary parts.

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    Also looks like Teraflex has a 3" kit in my price range:
    Teraflex 3" Lift Kit
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    Actually i just ordered the std RE3.5" from jason at http://www.4x4groupbuy.com it did in deed come with dt3000's for around 578.00 tax and shipping incl. install on monday and ofcourse pics
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    You can keep the shocks that you got with the 2" RE kit.......

    if you drop your front axle you will see that the shocks will extend as far as you can drop it....in other words as long as you have the stock control arms you can keep the budget boost shocks.......

    What you could do is buy the rough country with the shocks then sell your budget boost for like $100 or so and buy some disconnects....


    As for regearing it depends on your current gears, I have the poopy 3.07 in mine so when i get 33s I will need to regear again (regeared on my old TJ)

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    Since yours came with DT3000's it sounds like I am ok with keeping mine. That should save a little cost.
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    Go with RE. Very reputable, respectable, and damn cool to have one. =) I just got the 4.5 SF bc I wanted the adjustables to use my CV with.
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    I have the RE3.5" Superflex kit same as the standard but with new lower control arms and I love it is a great lift for the money.
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    Have you thought about Rusty's? http://www.rustysoffroad.com/ His 3" kit is $459 and it comes with shocks. You can also request he drop the pitman arm and save a few$$. He recommends buying bumpstops extra$$ or adding a 1" BL for 33's.
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    Another question, do I need to get a spare tire swing out carrier or spare tire reenforcement kit to put a 33" spare on the back. If so, any recommendations on which one to get?

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    Send Larry at Mad4wd.com an e-mail. He can beat the $578 for the RE 3.5 and dt3000s.

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    You got a TOP OF THE LINE brand new jeep and want to go with a cheaper lift? Why? I presume you already have a HD package and 30" tires and wheels? Your jeep likely rides really well right now. I suggest you save your money, work for now on ARMOR to protect your investment. When you can afford it go with quality. For a smaller lift such as you are wanting and 33" tires OME will give you what you want AND IMPROVE your ride even better then stock. If you have to go cheap for some crazy reason, consider BDS. I hear they are pretty decent quality at a good price. john

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    JDN hit the nail on the head about armor.. And his point about doing it quality the first time is good too... If it was only a coupl'a $100s difference between the complete RE kit and the RC kit... I'd just stick it out a few months.

    Also.. No one really touched on your gear $$ question. Expect typical rates to be about $1000-$1300 out the door (gears, bearings, labor, etc) - for both axles. Lockers of course not included. Asking this question on a national forum of course will get your varied answers... As market rates can vary as much as the weather!
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    "OME will give you what you want AND IMPROVE your ride even better then stock." Can you expain what you are referring to in this statement? I thought "OME" meant Old Man Emu shocks? I'm confused....


    Thanks for the comments on getting a cheap lift. I was not aware until I started this thread that RC was cheap stuff. I am very aware of it now. Everyone seems to agree that RE is quality. I am trying to decide between the RE 3.5" basic kit or the RE 3.5" superflex kit.

    Can anyone comment on how "necessary" it will be for me to re-gear for 33" tires. I am concerned about losing significant power on the already un-powered 4.0L.

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    OME (Old Man Emu) makes a suspension lift. The springs are very,very nice, but also more expensive than most lifts. I also think they make their own shocks

    Re-gearing depends mainly on the gears you already have. Since you have the 30" wheel and tire package, you might already have 3.73 gears which would be fine with 33's. If you have 3.07 gears, they will suck. There should be a little metal strip between two of the bolts on the front/rear diff covers which will show the gear ratio.

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    Yes I have the 3.73 gears, stock...
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