For those who say trackbars don't matter on a YJ

[Jays89YJ]

Ok first of all; Jeep would spend an extra TENTH of a cent if they didn't need to put the item on. The trackbars on YJs are there for stability keeping the axles centered obviously. And my JKS trackbar gives my YJ a bunch more stability when tightened. Maybe it's because I'm running the OME instead of, I don't know Teraflex or something. Now I just notice the rear jumping around on the road now.... rear trackbar would solve that I'm willing to bet.

One thing I liked about the stock trackbars is that they had bushings in them. Plus they were 1" or thicker - pretty hardcore.

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89 YJ, OME 2.5" lift, JKS trackbar, Alpine head-unit, R.F. sub, custom 258 bored out, 4bbl Holley setup, Elgin cam, Borla header, Clifford 4bbl intake, valve cover breathers, Monza catback exhaust, high flow cat, Mallory Unilite distributor, MSD blaster 2 coil, custom interior, 32x11.50x15 M.T. Baja Radial MTXs, 15x8 A.R. Baja wheels, and still in the making.

[Joe Dillard]

Tracbars are kinda like belly buttons: Some like em' in, while some like em' out. http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/wink.gif It all goes towards personel preferance, use of the vehical, & equipment set-up.

[mrblaine]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Joe Dillard:
Tracbars are kinda like belly buttons: (on YJ's) http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/tongue.gif Some like em' in, while some like em' out. http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/wink.gif It all goes towards personel preferance, use of the vehical, & equipment set-up.</font>

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Sorry Joe, don't wanna confuse the newbies.


[This message has been edited by mrblaine (edited 10-03-2001).]

[Joe Dillard]

Thanks Blaine. http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/images/ubb/biggrin.gif

Hey, I heard that you went to New Mexico for some wheelin'. How was it?

I just got back to San Diego Friday from 5 weeks in Pennsylvania. I got to go wheelin' at the Pine Barrens in New Jersey, & go to Paragon too.

[Jays89YJ]

Yeah that's so confusing and stuff http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif. Ok so it's a preferance, but I'm just saying Jeep would not spend an extra penny on something that is not needed on their vehicles... In other words trackbars on YJs DO serve a purpose.

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89 YJ, OME 2.5" lift, JKS trackbar, Alpine head-unit, R.F. sub, custom 258 bored out, 4bbl Holley setup, Elgin cam, Borla header, Clifford 4bbl intake, valve cover breathers, Monza catback exhaust, high flow cat, Mallory Unilite distributor, MSD blaster 2 coil, custom interior, 32x11.50x15 M.T. Baja Radial MTXs, 15x8 A.R. Baja wheels, and still in the making.

[JMyerz]

The idea is that the leaf springs can't move a whole lot from side to side so there isn't a need for a track bar.

-Justin

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Justin Myers
'97 TJ Sport -Black-
Full Hard Doors, Soft
Top, 33X12.50 BFG MT KM
RE 3.5", Clifford Header, and more!

[MudBug]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jays89YJ:
And my JKS trackbar gives my YJ a bunch more stability when tightened.</font>

Would you recommend the JKS trackbar. I just installed revolver shackles on my YJ and removed both trackbars. Driving without the rear is not bad, but the Jeep feels pretty mushy without the front. Is this the same as the "Telescoping"(sp) trackbar that you can unlock while on the trail? I don't want to run with a trackbar on the trail because it would not make sence with the revolvers, but on the street it would be nice to have.
TIA

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2.5" Skyjacker/1" Daystar
JKS Disconnects/Revolver Shackles
32x12.5 BFG MTs
[_]IIIII[_]

[cuoffrd]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jays89YJ:
Yeah that's so confusing and stuff http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif. Ok so it's a preferance, but I'm just saying Jeep would not spend an extra penny on something that is not needed on their vehicles... In other words trackbars on YJs DO serve a purpose.

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I'd always heard they were put on in response to the criticism that CJs roled too easy. I've driven both with and without on my YJ, and believe they do make a difference. Certainly I think the jeep has better on-road manners with the track bar.

I now have the JKS adjustable in the front, and none in the rear. I occasionally get what feels like a little "push" from the back when I hit any kind of little bump while turning even slightly. Sometimes it'll happen even when going straight.

I'm going to try it off-road at Paragon this w/e and I will see if I think it makes enough difference off-road to make the on-road adjustment worthwhile.

But I agree, they were put there for a reason - to help keep the jeep more stable on-road.



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See you off road!

'90 YJ, 2.5" OME suspension lift, 1" Daystar body lift, 32x11.5 BFG AT's, AR Outlaw wheels, ARB Air Lockers - front & rear, Tomken bumpers, tire carrier & rock rails, Trailmax seats, JKS quick disconnects, JKS adjustable track bar, Borla header & cat back, Random Tech hi-perf cat, Warn 8000i, 4 little cylinders

[astape]

I highly recomend the JKS tb and a set of disco's for the front if you do a lot of street driving. This would be with or without Revolvers. In the rear remove the tb. Because of the higher spring rates of lift springs the rear is much stiffer and no longer requires the track bar. You also have to remember it is now a lifted Jeep and not a sports car. Just my $.02.

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Aaron
'88 YJ, '91 4.0l XJ motor & '97 TJ AX-15, FF 8.8 w/ 4.10 & Detroit, D30 w/ Warn 5-5.5 hubs and 1 pc axles w/ 297 joints, 3.5" BDS lift, JKS Adj. TB, SB Discos, 33" Tires, F&R Revolvers, 4-1, SYE, 2WD Low, F&R CV DS, BP MM w/ 1.75" lift, Bayou Geep belly-up skid pan

[Jays89YJ]

Mudbug, the JKS TTB is key because all you have to do is tighten a nut or loosen it for on road or off-road. Yes the JKS TTB does make my YJ much more stable when tightened. I am not going to get into the issue of the machined metal piece and hex bolt yet. Look for my drawing posted in the near future.

If you want the ease of just tightening a bolt buy the JKS TTB.... tis a bit pricey, but hey; isn't everything for a Jeep?

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89 YJ, OME 2.5" lift, JKS trackbar, Alpine head-unit, R.F. sub, custom 258 bored out, 4bbl Holley setup, Elgin cam, Borla header, Clifford 4bbl intake, valve cover breathers, Monza catback exhaust, high flow cat, Mallory Unilite distributor, MSD blaster 2 coil, custom interior, 32x11.50x15 M.T. Baja Radial MTXs, 15x8 A.R. Baja wheels, and still in the making.

[MudBug]

Thanks Jay that is pretty much the answer I was looking for. If it works the way they claim I will not mind spending the $$ for it. It looks like everybody sells them for around $180 or so.

[fuelin]

if a car company would not install something unless there is a need why are there cupholders?

[JeepFiend420]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cuoffrd:
I'd always heard they were put on in response to the criticism that CJs roled too easy.
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DING! DING! DING!...We have a winner! http://forums.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/images/ubb/biggrin.gif

They aren't necessary; I've run without mine for years now. I do know some that prefer them, under the belief that they are safer with it on. All I know is mine runs a lot smoother off road without it. JeepBandit has a nice setup to serve both purposes though. He has a quick release pin to lock it in for on road and release it for off-road.

[TBone]

I run a telesoping trac bar on the front of my YJ. I dont ues one in the rear. I really dont notice that much of a diferance with out the rear. When I bought my trac bar for the front I got the one fron Rubicon Express, I liked it because it came with the drop bracket that attaches to the axle(from what I have seen its not suplied with the JKS) This bracket keeps the front end geometry close to what its suposed to be. The track bar and the tie rod are suposed to be at the same, or as close to the same angle as posible. This will have less of a bump steer effect on the road because you dont have conflicting angles.

Tom

[harsany]

I recently went over the rubicon and when I started driveing on the street again, I noticed my steering wheel was at the 2 o'clock position. I got out and looked at my shackles (factory ones) and they were both shifted over to the passenger side. To remedy this, I welded a piece of tube between the two plates that make up one shackle. This tightened up my steering a lot. Moral of the story... HD aftermarket shackles (not revolvers) help make up for the loss of the trackbar.

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Joe Harsany
95 YJ, 4.0 5sp
SOA, 1" BL, 35s
D44s, 4.88, locked, full floaters
Disk Brakes, Hi-Clearance Steering
HS9500i, Hi-Lift
Custom Bumper/Swing- away, Nerf Bars