Revolver Shackles... will they unload and make you flip???

[Rock WoRM]

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FWIW...

Decide for yourself...

this was much,much steeper than it looks. SOA TLC w/SRS and revolvers F & R. fully unloaded and it still climbed up this ledge! :agree:



WRM :bsod:

[Joe Dillard]

The reason he was okay is that he placed his EASY Button on the windshield & somebody pressed it. :D

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[Rock WoRM]

BTW: I got your glasses & will be mailing them after you PM me your address.
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[James (Cubby) Culbertson]

Revolver's. One of the most debated products out there. I've learned to just stay out of the fray. Mine have worked perfectly and I've been happy with them. Never had a problem with them "unloading" and I haven't flipped and died because of them. Ahh well, let the flames begin.....
Cheers,
cc

[Karma]

Revolver's. One of the most debated products out there. I've learned to just stay out of the fray. Mine have worked perfectly and I've been happy with them. Never had a problem with them "unloading" and I haven't flipped and died because of them. Ahh well, let the flames begin.....
Cheers,
cc

HI Cubby,
I have considered Revolvers but have never jumped. Do you have them on the rear? If so, how do you deal with the emergency brake cable and drive shaft at full extension?

Thanks, Sparky

[matts88yj]

Have them in the front only and they haven't given me a single problem.

[dizzy95yj]

are they a hinged shackle? i have never seen revolvers installed on a jeep, only in catalogs. what do you guys mean by "unloading"? do they swing forward and backward?

looks like it crawls well!!

i have a similar thing on my jeep: reverse shackle and sulastics replacing the standard style shackles.

[PhatYJ]

They hinge from closed, to open, plus they swivel...... or twist.

Unloading is people describing the action of them coming all the way "open" at an in-opportune time.

An example would be if someone had them on the back of their rig, and was slowly going down a steep hill nose first. Back end real high due to lack of weight... then the lack of weight causes the shackles to 'open' or 'unload' thus allowing the back of the rig to go even higher, possibly causing an 'ace over teakettle' scenario.

^ Have I ever seen that scenario happen? No.

I ran some on the rear of my XJ for a while. Never had any issues with them, but eventually took them off.

[James (Cubby) Culbertson]

HI Cubby,
I have considered Revolvers but have never jumped. Do you have them on the rear? If so, how do you deal with the emergency brake cable and drive shaft at full extension?

Thanks, Sparky

I haven't had any issues with the brake lines, e-brake cable, or drive shaft with them. I have a fairly long slip driveshaft so I'm sure that has helped. As well, my brake lines/e-brake cable are long enough. It really doesn't take that much more length if you figure closed vs. open is only a few inches (maybe 5-6?).
Cheers,
cc

[mckeddie]

i ran them on the rear of my YJ, i loved em, never did they hop, never unloaded on me that i noticed, and that jeep was all over the east, ran all the hard trails in harlan with em, i loved em.

greg

[dizzy95yj]

i am curious....are we showing how good they are or asking what everyone thinks about them? what direction are we headed in?

[Karma]

I haven't had any issues with the brake lines, e-brake cable, or drive shaft with them. I have a fairly long slip driveshaft so I'm sure that has helped. As well, my brake lines/e-brake cable are long enough. It really doesn't take that much more length if you figure closed vs. open is only a few inches (maybe 5-6?).
Cheers,
cc

HI Cubby,
Actually, 5 or 6 inches is quite a bit for a drive shaft that's not a hell of a lot longer than that. And, if the E brake is properly adjusted, it seems to me that it is sure to come to the end of its slack and have the full weight of the third member applied. Not only will the cable be stressed, the E brake will be fully applied. Brake lines are probably not as much of a problem because their length can be adjusted to compensate.

My sense of it is that Revolvers are OK (maybe even great) for trailered purpose made rock Jeep's but poses real problems for one routinely driven on the street or highway such as mine. IOW, they seem best suited to specialized, high performance builds. My Jeep is intended for a different purpose like pulling a trailer and being an expedition vehicle.

I'm glad you are not having trouble but all you have done is confirm my concerns. Thanks. I appreciate your input. I'm still not jumping (no pun! :) ).

Sparky

[Jeep Freak]

i guy in my club has them front and rear on his CJ-5. that little rig does amazing, and the flex the revolvers give it is one reason why. he's told me the only time he would worry is making emergency maneuvers on the highway. under hard braking or swerving they will unload a little, and make the Jeep a little squirrely. he's never flipped or come close to an accident though.

[James (Cubby) Culbertson]

HI Cubby,
Actually, 5 or 6 inches is quite a bit for a drive shaft that's not a hell of a lot longer than that. And, if the E brake is properly adjusted, it seems to me that it is sure to come to the end of its slack and have the full weight of the third member applied. Not only will the cable be stressed, the E brake will be fully applied. Brake lines are probably not as much of a problem because their length can be adjusted to compensate.

My sense of it is that Revolvers are OK (maybe even great) for trailered purpose made rock Jeep's but poses real problems for one routinely driven on the street or highway such as mine. IOW, they seem best suited to specialized, high performance builds. My Jeep is intended for a different purpose like pulling a trailer and being an expedition vehicle.

I'm glad you are not having trouble but all you have done is confirm my concerns. Thanks. I appreciate your input. I'm still not jumping (no pun! :) ).

Sparky

My driveshaft isn't 5-6" longer if that's what you mean. In fact, the driveshaft only has to be minimally longer to handle the droop. For an 18" driveshaft (just as an example), it would only need to extend 1" when the revolver's are fully extended. My Ebrake cable is just fine and I've not seen it come to the end of it's slack. As for the brake lines, yes, I did add extended ones. I did have to add some springs to them to keep them from falling into things but they aren't an issue.

I do take exception to thinking they aren't safe or cause problems on the road. My jeep is largely a daily driver and I've never had any issues with these things "unloading" or causing problems on the highway. I've been driving with them for probably close to 10 years now and haven't seen any of the hypothetical issues people seem to think they'll cause.

Now, they do make these "z-boxes" that further extend the possible movement of the axle. For me, those seem to require a lot more work to ensure things aren't stressed/stretched/etc.... I don't think I'll go there!
Cheers,
cc

[matts88yj]

My sense of it is that Revolvers are OK (maybe even great) for trailered purpose made rock Jeep's but poses real problems for one routinely driven on the street or highway such as mine.

I drive mine on the street and highway everyday with zero issues.

[mckeddie]

i never ran anything special for a driveshaft on mine, just a cut down stock front shaft out of a 77 f-150. cut and shortened it myself, never had a problem or vibration out of it, although it did look like hell (first thing i ever welded).

greg