trac-bars . .yuch i know, but i have a question

[2k2wranglerX]

are any of you guys running them?

my rig currently has a 3" rough country lift and no sway bars or trac-bars.

my girlfriend will drive it, but gets nervous in teh corners. locked with no trac-bars makes the steering pretty vague and sloppy.

do any of you run just a front? i was thinking that may help. taking the locker out is defenitely NOT an option lol. NEED that thing. i have teh stock bars, i was just wondering if any of you had any input.

thanks!

Ry

[partsphil]

I run the front only (also the sway bar with discos). I took it off and drove it to the deer lease one weekend and on the main highways it wasnt noticeable, but when I got on the uneven backroads, it was very loose and difficult to control. I put the front trac bar back on and it improved immensely......just a minute while I put on my flame-proof suit......ok Im ready!

[Jason L Williams]

I only run the front trac bar now. I just recently removed, for good, the sway bar. If I try, I can notice it gone. I don't even miss the rear trac bar.
On a trip last year, I actually think the front trac bar kept my right front spring hanger from completely ripping off. Some in the group I was with think the trac bar was what caused the spring hanger to go. I guess due to the angle the axle was put into. I thought it kept everything together to finish the trip. So, with that, I still keep the front on.

[TERIOD]

if you do decide to run the front trackbar, you should have either a relocation bracket or a adjustable trackbar, as it should be parallel to the drag link,,,
the sway bar will definitly help you in the corners and with disconnects you can still have flex for wheelin

[BlackYJ]

I only run a trackbar in the front as well. I had removed the trackbar after my last lift install and kept the swaybar (w/discos) and it was too squirrely for my liking. I am now running the JKS Adjustable Trackbar in the front and usually during the summer I leave the swaybar disconnected unless i have a long highway drive. In the winter I keep both connected

[James (Cubby) Culbertson]

I only run a trackbar in the front as well. I had removed the trackbar after my last lift install and kept the swaybar (w/discos) and it was too squirrely for my liking. I am now running the JKS Adjustable Trackbar in the front and usually during the summer I leave the swaybar disconnected unless i have a long highway drive. In the winter I keep both connected

Ditto here. I tried without the front for awhile and just didn't like the loosey goosey feel I got on the road. I put the JKS in and haven't looked back. You do have to tighten that sucker down pretty tight to keep it from "adjusting" but it's no big deal. I took off the rear years ago and never noticed it missing.
Cheers,
cc

[Janster]

Get a better steering setup..... you won't regret it.

Leave the tracbars off and put the swaybar back on for street driving.

[James (Cubby) Culbertson]

Get a better steering setup..... you won't regret it.

Leave the tracbars off and put the swaybar back on for street driving.

I've got what I believe is a pretty good steering setup. With the track bar off the front, there is just too much sway in the vehicle. I realize I'd probably never "flop over" so to speak but it doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy when doing an emergency maneuver on the freeway (which convinced me to keep the track bar!). Oh, and the sway bar is connected when on road as well.
Cheers,
cc

[BlackYJ]

Get a better steering setup..... you won't regret it.

Leave the tracbars off and put the swaybar back on for street driving.

Sorry for the hijack but what would you recommend for a steering setup? I never really thought about that

[2k2wranglerX]

well here's the thing.

it doesn't "SWAY", you can tell the axle is shifting left to right. you'll come out of a turn and when the rig ends up straight, your wheel is still 1/8th of a turn off. you can sorta swerve and recenter the wheel and you're good again.

I'm thinking the tracbar would help, but i didn't know if anyone was doing anything differently.

can you redrill a YJ bracket like you Can a TJ bracket just to move it over?

[TERIOD]

well here's the thing.

it doesn't "SWAY", you can tell the axle is shifting left to right. you'll come out of a turn and when the rig ends up straight, your wheel is still 1/8th of a turn off. you can sorta swerve and recenter the wheel and you're good again.

I'm thinking the tracbar would help, but i didn't know if anyone was doing anything differently.

can you redrill a YJ bracket like you Can a TJ bracket just to move it over?

they sell a relocation bracket for around 26 bucks at most 4x4 shops,, this moves it up to the right level, which is what is needed

[Janster]

Sorry for the hijack but what would you recommend for a steering setup? I never really thought about that
I have the bulletproof setup by perfomance unlimited.
The whole point is getting the tie-rod & drag link as parallel to eachother to help prevent bumpsteer. You can actually do this style steering by buying the pieces separately and saving some $$ in the process. I just didn't have the time to do all the research. This setup runs heim joints - which may or may not be legal for inspection-pending if your state inspection mechanic even notices..... (they're not legal in PA)

http://www.lieblweb.com/Izzy/FullSteering.jpg
http://www.lieblweb.com/Izzy/NewKnuckle.jpg
http://www.lieblweb.com/Izzy/NewSteering.jpg

Basically, the tie-rod goes directly to the kuckle, making it longer and more parallel. Been running this for about 4 years and love it.

[Janster]

well here's the thing.

it doesn't "SWAY", you can tell the axle is shifting left to right. you'll come out of a turn and when the rig ends up straight, your wheel is still 1/8th of a turn off. you can sorta swerve and recenter the wheel and you're good again.

I'm thinking the tracbar would help, but i didn't know if anyone was doing anything differently.

can you redrill a YJ bracket like you Can a TJ bracket just to move it over?

Physics aside..... put the sway bar on and take it for a ride. It's much more stable - you'll feel it.

I have 4.5" lift with 35's and I run without trac bars with swaybar and it's fine on the highway at 65mph. Stiffer shocks also help firm up the ride.

[Janster]

I've got what I believe is a pretty good steering setup. With the track bar off the front, there is just too much sway in the vehicle. I realize I'd probably never "flop over" so to speak but it doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy when doing an emergency maneuver on the freeway (which convinced me to keep the track bar!). Oh, and the sway bar is connected when on road as well.
Cheers,
cc

I wouldn't wanna do an emergency maneuver with my jeep at all....period, not matter what I did to it in terms of setup. I'm sure - because of its top heavy nature (my rig anyway)- it'd flop anyway regardless.

One time on the highway I did have to swirve pretty hard because traffic was really clogged up on this one onramp. The guy in front of me decided he'd better slow down quickly in my lane before getting his ass over into the other lane. I swirved enough to scare the chit outta me not knowing how the jeep would handle.... It did fine - I was amazed.
Needless to say, I tend to avoid that section of the highway at that time of the day....I don't wanna put myself in a situation like that again regardless.

[Rock WoRM]

well here's the thing.

it doesn't "SWAY", you can tell the axle is shifting left to right. you'll come out of a turn and when the rig ends up straight, your wheel is still 1/8th of a turn off.
Are your shackles torque'd correctly? Worn bushings? I would even check your ball joints for play. Sounds like U could have other issue's going on here.???

:2cents:




WRM :irishkiss:

[James (Cubby) Culbertson]

I wouldn't wanna do an emergency maneuver with my jeep at all....period, not matter what I did to it in terms of setup. I'm sure - because of its top heavy nature (my rig anyway)- it'd flop anyway regardless.

One time on the highway I did have to swirve pretty hard because traffic was really clogged up on this one onramp. The guy in front of me decided he'd better slow down quickly in my lane before getting his ass over into the other lane. I swirved enough to scare the chit outta me not knowing how the jeep would handle.... It did fine - I was amazed.
Needless to say, I tend to avoid that section of the highway at that time of the day....I don't wanna put myself in a situation like that again regardless.


Yeah, I'm not one to just go out and want to do emergency maneuvers but they do happen. In my case, I had a guy drfit across the lane markers in a corner and I had to do a pretty good correction to avoid hitting him. The Jeep listed enough to convince me to keep the trackbar on and my sway bar connected. I'm running the MORE steering setup which I believe is a pretty decent setup. Maybe I'm just being more conservative than most but for me, it's (some) piece of mind.
Cheers,
cc

[kent l]

I have my front sway bar with Tera dis-connects also my front track bar. I remove The track bar if I am going off road for extended periods. If i am driving on the street for extended amounts of time I put it back on. I drive in the Snow and icy with steep curvy roads and need all the handling I can get.

If I had the money I would buy the M.O.R.E. clamping track bar.