35's??

[coyotepete]

can I fit 35's on my yj if I do a 4" suspension lift + a 2" shackle lift? I really want 35s but I don't want to shell out the cash for a 6" kit.

[butch6924]

Instead of a 2" shackle lift, do 1" BL and TJ flares. The 35's will fit but you'll have to adjust your bumpstops accordingly.

Do a little research on shackly lifts. 2" there adds 4" to the length of your shackle. That makes for a lot of problems including a crappy approach angle, nasty caster, and some wild steering quirks. Stick with a BL and fender trimming to clear the tires. It's easily done.

[vsheetz]

Agreed, the body lift is a better way to go. RE does make 5" shackles with doglegged rears (1" lift) that work well - but I would not go higher with shackes.

[coyotepete]

Will the YJ be super top heavy with a BL? Who makes the best 4" suspension lift for the YJ? Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, Im new to this. Thanks for your help.

[coyotepete]

Also does anyone have any experience with the revolver shackles - they supposedly allow for more articulation with little or no lift?

[vsheetz]

1" BL will not affect handling adversly - but hey, of course it's a lifted Jeep not a sports car. Rubicon Express makes good stuff and is very popular.

[chuckp]

This is a 4" lift and TJ flares, no body lift.
http://www.oldjeep.com/images/YJ/P4140001.JPG

[BlackYJ]

Will the YJ be super top heavy with a BL? Who makes the best 4" suspension lift for the YJ? Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions, Im new to this. Thanks for your help.

Try the search button, lifts and clearance are discussed all the time

Get a 4" suspension lift, with .5" MORE Boomerang shackles and either a body lift and/or TJ flares and you will be fine.

Also if you are new to this, I would not go with 35s, that is a lot of Jeep

[coyotepete]

Why should I not do 35's? Is there a reason other than the fact that I'm a newbie? are they harder to control on the hwy? whats the problem with 35's?

[wildtyphoon]

i couldnt resist lightening up your picture a little bit. google picasa is awsome :thup2:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f227/wildtyphoon/P4140001.jpg

[zman]

Why should I not do 35's? Is there a reason other than the fact that I'm a newbie? are they harder to control on the hwy? whats the problem with 35's?

If you have the 2.5L 35's are a big tire for that little motor. You will be lucky to use 4th gear with stock gearing with the 2.5L. If you do any offroading your rear axel is weak and more vulnerable as the tires get larger. Many people on this board that are running 35's have replaced their rear axel with a stronger one. As mentioned use the search button. This topic has been covered thousands of times. I'm sure you will find most of your answers there.

zman

[vsheetz]

It's the same old usual thing with a Jeep - one modification leads to another, to another. Bigger tire desires bring lifts, and then you need to change the gearing, and while you are doing that you should put a locker or two in it, and the axles (esepcially the rear if Dana 35) need upgrades and/or replacement - and on it can go...

31's make the least changes needed, 33's need more stuff, and 35's need even more...

[chuckp]

The most important thing is brakes. Big heavy 35's require a lot more to stop. Mines got an 8.8 disc brake rear and Mercury Marquis Master Cylinder, which makes it stop as well as when it had the little tires.

[butch6924]

We're kind of getting into dead horse territory here, but, I'll chime in anyway.

If you're serious about building your Jeep to a point where you can safely run 35" tall tires, I'd recommend doing a lot more research than just posting a single question on a forum and expecting to get all of your questions answered. Don't get me wrong, it's a great place to start, but, there's a lot to a build plan besides just getting the body to clear the tires.

Do some searching on here. A few things to consider when upgrading to 35's.
rear axle upgrade
SYE & DS
~6" of additional tire clearance (either lift of cutting, both work well)
brakes
wheels
tires
axle gears
How to mount the spare (can't really just bolt a 35" tire to the tailgate)
steering

There's a lot to consider and you've started in the right place, now it's time for you to go do some research. Every Jeep is a little different and every Jeeper will tell you a different way to do things based on what they've done. Read all the OPINIONS and make the best choices for YOU.

[Rock WoRM]

can I fit 35's on my yj if I do a 4" suspension lift + a 2" shackle lift? I really want 35s but I don't want to shell out the cash for a 6" kit.
U say "if I do" which leads me to believe U have no current lift??? If not, then your not talking much difference in getting a taller lift, money wise. BDS 5" is'nt that much $$$ when U buy spring/bushing only. Combined w/BL will clear 35's with ease.
btw... FYI, a 2" over shackle = 8 inches. Thats a purdy tall shackle and most here will agree, not very desireable. :disagree:

And just for the record... I agree with the other guys... a little more research and homework would be prudent. Take your time and do it right the first time. :thup2:



WoRM :bsod:

[coyotepete]

Why does every single person here think I'm not going to do any research? I don't remember ever stating that I was going to go out and spend thousands based on what you guys said, it was a simple question from a newbie. I appreciate the responses, but ostracizing me for "not doing any reasearch" is a little unfair, don't you think? Apparently this isn't the place to get ALL of my questions, all two of them..., answered.

[BlackYJ]

Why does every single person here think I'm not going to do any research? I don't remember ever stating that I was going to go out and spend thousands based on what you guys said, it was a simple question from a newbie. I appreciate the responses, but ostracizing me for "not doing any reasearch" is a little unfair, don't you think? Apparently this isn't the place to get ALL of my questions, all two of them..., answered.

My question to you then is why not do some research first and then ask more specific questions, then just a very generic question at the beginning?

[butch6924]

Why does every single person here think I'm not going to do any research? I don't remember ever stating that I was going to go out and spend thousands based on what you guys said, it was a simple question from a newbie. I appreciate the responses, but ostracizing me for "not doing any reasearch" is a little unfair, don't you think? Apparently this isn't the place to get ALL of my questions, all two of them..., answered.

I doubt a blanket generalization like "everybody here think[s] I'm not going to do any research" is "fair" either.

In all honesty, you asked a question that's been covered over and over. That shows that you didn't do any research. You asked about 2" lift shackles. Lift shackles are discussed daily here. That shows that you didn't do any research.

Most people here will be really patient with newbs. The fact is, we were all newbs at some point and on other boards, we are still newbs by their comparison. This is hardly a flame happy board so if you can't take the gentle nudging toward the search function, you really should consider thickening up your skin a bit. From all the responses I read, people are being very patient with your question and offering up sound advice.

Best of luck and don't be scared off. A lot of times, black and white text can convey a harsher message than is intended. Try not to let a bad impression spoil what this board has to offer you.

[zman]

Based on your post you obviously did not do much research or you would not have asked the question. Here is a thread that I did using the search tool here on JU.
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/search.php?searchid=861638
Within the first 10 threads you question was already answered. That's why people told you to use the search tool.

zman

[lilgreenjeepyj]

If you have the 2.5L 35's are a big tire for that little motor. You will be lucky to use 4th gear with stock gearing with the 2.5L. If you do any offroading your rear axel is weak and more vulnerable as the tires get larger. Many people on this board that are running 35's have replaced their rear axel with a stronger one. As mentioned use the search button. This topic has been covered thousands of times. I'm sure you will find most of your answers there.

zman



2.5L here with 35"s... 5.38s and 44s though so that makes things a bit nicer.

3.5" lift, 1"BL 5/8" shakles and TJ flares. No real clearance issues.

[wallysheata]

My girlfriend used to run 35" MT/R's on a sagged out 4" lift with a 1" shackle...it was closer to 3.5-4" total but looked damn good with the TJ flares, nice LOW stance, yet still fit 35's. If you do it with nice springs that actually flex, i recommend bumpstops...she had superlift springs so flex was not something she understood :agree: here's few shots...including one next to mine on 40's with 1" SOA for comparison.


http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/Moab/2006EJS/Metal_Masher0007.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/Moab/2006EJS/Porcupine_Rim0004.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/Moab/2006EJS/Porcupine_Rim0013.JPG
http://www.phatserver.net/~wally/YJ%20Tech/06%20Frame%20Stretch/08APR0003.JPG

[Tfritz]

Not to high jack the thread.. Hey Wally how do you get in that thing, jet pack, cherry picker or maybe your alot taller than you look in the pics I've seen :) I'm just asking because I'm about to go to 42" Iroks and I don't want to get stranded if I forget my climbing gear :thup2:

[zman]

Not to high jack the thread.. Hey Wally how do you get in that thing, jet pack, cherry picker or maybe your alot taller than you look in the pics I've seen :) I'm just asking because I'm about to go to 42" Iroks and I don't want to get stranded if I forget my climbing gear :thup2:


On a serious note have some grab bars welded on the corner of your cage near the windshield, makes a huge difference getting in. I did not have them at first in my current jeep with 40" tires and added them right away. Here's a pic of my other jeep on 35's with the handles...

http://users.aspect1.net/hardware/jeep/35s.jpg


Wally on the other hand probably has one of those horse saddle git up stirrup things. :touche:

[Rock WoRM]

have some grab bars welded on the corner of your cage near the windshield,

yup... those should help next time ya roll your junk! :touche:



:bsod:

[zman]

yup... those should help next time ya roll your junk! :touche:



:bsod:

In a roll over that would be the last place my hand (or foot) will be.

[D'Mann]

My girlfriend used to run 35" MT/R's on a sagged out 4" lift with a 1" shackle...she had superlift springs so flex was not something she understood :agree: here's few shots...including one next to mine on 40's with 1" SOA for comparison.




Wally, I have some old SuperLift 3.5" springs and I seem to have decent flex. Don't count those suckers out, even if the driver side sits a half inch lower up front.

I think the easiest way to 35's is a spring over, with upgraded axles, all at the same time. If you can weld, and find an 8.8 (I have one for sale w/4.10's) it's the best thing to do. You need to redo the perches on the axle anyway, so the front would be your big challenge.

My 2 cents

http://www.bjbnet.com/Me.jpg

[mighty4banger]

Ok - I'll chime in...I'm running 35's

I did a RE standard 4" lift and got ~6" out of it, MORE 1" body lift... already had a 8.8 rear axel and SYE. Finishing my front diff regear to 4.88s this w/e.

If you want to run 35's prepair to empty your wallet.:2cents:

[wallysheata]

Aside from my pics above, my comments about what is necessary to run 35's is this:

-8.8 or something comperable in the rear, a super duper 35 won't last long, in MOST cases, and is just not worth the money for 35" tires
- Beef the steering up, stock steering won't last.
- Min of 4.56 gears, but prefereable 4.88's or 5.13-5.38's if you're running a 4cyl or just like to rev your 6cyl
- 4:1...not mandatory but if you're doing any type of rockcrawling, you're going to want some other reduction in gearing besides just the axles, be it a 1 ton tranny with a granny low or an atlas, but stock tcase/tranny won't cut it in the rocks
- Flexy susp....you don't need SOA, but a nice set of SUA springs will get the job done....Alcan's are my personal fav, that's what i run and my girlfriend.
- TJ shafts in the dana 30, preferably with alloys but i've seen plenty of stock TJ shafts live with 35" MT/R's.
- Good roll cage, because at the height, there's a good chance you're going over...esp if you follow Zman :touche:

[lilgreenjeepyj]

Here is mine for reference: 3.5BDS springs, 5/8" shackles, 1"BL and TJ flares....
4cyl with Waggy 44s and 5.38s....
Oh and I now have a REAL spare on the back... ;)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/jeepnut24/Snow06019.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/jeepnut24/Snow06020.jpg