ARB question??

[lilgreenjeepyj]

Ok, trying to get the compressor and solenoids wired up. One of the solenoids looks like its missing a bolt/filter? on the end. One had it, and one doesn't. One leaks out of that hole and one doesn't?? Wasn't in the box for the second locker. Any ideas?


I also somehow got my wires crossed as the rear locker switch works, but also lights up the front. However the front doesn't kick off the solenoid by itself??? I guess I need to get to looking closer at the diagrams and the switches. Anyone else out there running the mini-compressor?? It seems to be wired a bit different than the normal compressor....

Front
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/jeepnut24/pics005.jpg

Back
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/jeepnut24/pics006.jpg

[zman]

My ARB on my 8.8 does not have that filter either. That is where the air is released after you disengage the locker. As far as the wiring, throw that diagram away. It is set up so that you must lock the rear before you lock the front. This prevents you from locking the front and keeping the rear open. A decision I think I am capable of making myself.

zman

[Joe Dillard]

Hmm, I see the bolt you're talking about on the rear pic.

My solenoids don't have them.

Try screwing in the area that looks like a thumbwheel a little bit, or the one that's bleeding/leaking air. See if that fixes the air leak.

I *might* have the ARB compressor wiring diagram in my email inbox. I'll check it out & maybe pass it to you via email if you think it might do you any good.

PM on it's way. :)

[lilgreenjeepyj]

Ive got the wiring diagrams, I just need to go over them again. So I have to lock the rear before the front? If so then maybe its working correctly. The filter less solenoid is the one leaking. Ill try tightening the thumb wheel portion and see what that does.

Any logic to forcing you to lock the rear to lock the front?

Oh and thanks for the offer of the diagrams. Much appreciated and why I love these boards. Honest help.


The front switch lights up when I engage the rear locker. Is that correct even though I haven't switched on the front locker??

[Joe Dillard]

I did find the diagram from Scott Cohen of ARB, but it looks like it won't be necessary.

Yes, if you wire your ARB's up according to the ARB diagram, you need to engage the rear locker first before engaging the front.

If you leave the front locker on & then turn off the rear only with the rear switch....both will release at the same time even though you didn't toggle the front.

The front switch will remain on/in the same position, but the F&R solenoid will release the air by ARB's design of the wiring harness.

[lilgreenjeepyj]

Ok that kinda makes sense, but why would the air be passing out the exhaust for the front locker solenoid? Would a backwards wiring job cause this? Guess I really need to sit down with the diagram and give it a bit more time. Right now when I click on the compressor the air passes right out the front exhaust port.

[Joe Dillard]

The air shouldn't pass through the solenoid (bleed/purge) unless you have just released the locker with the switch.

Try physically unmounting the front solenoid and swapping it with the rear (put the front on the rear and the rear on the front). See what this does.

If the problem moved to the other locker, the solenoid is somehow malfunctioning.

If it were me, I'd disassymble the solenoids to see what's going on inside and see if something is somehow missing. Compare each of their internals (don't get each solenoids components mixed-up!!) and find out if something is out of order visually.

I have other ideas too but trying to explain them over the internet isn't always easy. ;)

[lilgreenjeepyj]

Yeah, I think Ill swap the wiring around for the front and rear at the solenoids and see if that cause the same to happen but in reverse. Then if its still the same solenoid leaking Ill tear into it and take lots of pictures. They are brand new so ARB should cover any issues.

[Joe Dillard]

I have a sneeky suspicion the solenoid is either stuck open, not receiving the electrical control signal it needs to shut, or is missing an internal component.

But I'll bet you were already thinking that. :D

[lilgreenjeepyj]

I have a sneeky suspicion the solenoid is either stuck open, not receiving the electrical control signal it needs to shut, or is missing an internal component.

But I'll bet you were already thinking that. :D


Yeah that is where I was heading.

[lilgreenjeepyj]

Well I got an answer on the leak. Scott from rockstomper pointed out that I have it plumbed backwards. It should be plumbed to the #1 port not #2, and from the picture you can clearly see #1 is open... :slapz:

Ill flip it around and see if that fixes my issues.

[Joe Dillard]

Cool, sounds good.

[lilgreenjeepyj]

Well flopped the block around and switced 1 and 2 and it works fine... Other than having to lock the rear to lock the front...